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Filter unexpected interception

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NyanCatda (talkcontribs)

I got an notice while creating a page for my project "This site is for documenting the MediaWiki software. It is not the wiki that you set up for your class, workplace, or personal use, nor is it Wikipedia." This is a project that uses chat software to search MediaWiki. Can you help me create a page for it? Thank you very much!

Clump (talkcontribs)

Hi. Please consider adding it to the new toolhub, which aggregates various tools for interacting with mediawiki.

Wargo (talkcontribs)

Try again

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SCP-2000 (talkcontribs)
Clump (talkcontribs)

Thanks for pointing that out. It's a big-ish range for ip blocking, but I don't see any useful edits in the entire 5 year editing history of that range (other than translation defuzzing). So blocked for now, but I left the talk page open in case there are concerns.

SCP-2000 (talkcontribs)

This IP range was abused again after the block had released. Please block again. Thanks.

Clump (talkcontribs)

Thanks; done.

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MediaWiki message delivery (talkcontribs)

SGrabarczuk (WMF) 01:19, 27 June 2021 (UTC)

Incorrect translations by DDPAT

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Renvoy (talkcontribs)

Hello! I wanted to deliver issue that is happening with translation of content by DDPAT 2.0 aka DDPAT Knife Series into Ukrainian and Russian. Unfortunately, user is notorious for his machine translatons that in many cases do not have any sense. For instance, diff and diff. He is esspecially bad at translating long and complex sentences. To be fair, he can have some okay-ish small translations from time to time but prior examples just do not let me not to report this situation to the community and admins. On translatewiki, discussion on temporary removal of translation right was started because of the same reason. I, myself, spoke countless times with user via Ukrainian Wiki Discord, trying to persuade him, first of all not to use Google translate and not to translate things he has no clue about but, unfortunately, seems like it does not work. What can be done in this situation? P.S. Note also that, for example, this translation done by user was deleted as low quality one.

DDPAT 2.0 (talkcontribs)

I'm sorry, but I don't translate here into Russian. And secondly, translation is allowed to all users here, so why not just correct my translations if there are no major problems with it everywhere? And I also translate what I know more than what I don't understand.

Renvoy (talkcontribs)
Pppery (talkcontribs)
DDPAT 2.0 (talkcontribs)

As someone told me, "there is diligence, there is talent, but a little understanding of their language is not quite. So you can write it off as an advantage with a small drawback."

I hope they understand me.

Ата (talkcontribs)

I am forced to support Renvoy in that something has to be done. I would suggest banning the user from translations for a year or so. I did my share of AGF by trying to persuade him to pay more attention to his work, read carefully, not rush, study the subject before making translations and taking his time to practice English elsewhere before publishing translations of twn or here. In discussions on public Discord server he has shown what is, to my mind, utter malunderstanding of the purpose of volunteer translation, saying "who uses dictionaries in 2021?", "why don't you correct translations after me", "don't tell me you're lazy to correct me, someone else will", "if translators to Russian demand that I stop, I will" etc. I believe that giving the user free time to study English with a teacher now would be useful for their future work.

Renvoy (talkcontribs)

Unfortunately, today I once again was fixing incorrect translations, done by user: 1, 2, even after all talks.

DDPAT 2.0 (talkcontribs)

You corrected my messages, and what? Everyone corrects mistakes. Especially... these are simple user subpages.

Ciencia Al Poder (talkcontribs)

Ok, I've blocked User:DDPAT 2.0 for editing translations for 3 months.

Some browsers, specially Google Chrome and derivatives, come with automatic translation tools. If a page is not translated, such browsers will translate the text on the fly. Basically, there's no need to fill the translation with machine translations, because people that really want to translate things will see those pages as already translated when they aren't, and will be left with incorrect translations. On the other hand, such machine translations can be confusing and misleading.

I consider sufficient warnings have been made to the user, with suggestions to skip translations where the user is not comfortable enough with the meaning of the text or how to translate it, but the user decided to ignore them.

Let's see if after that time DDPAT 2.0 reconsiders those suggestions or continues to create problematic translations.

DDPAT 2.0 (talkcontribs)

I'm sorry. I want to edit the translations of my test page.

Ciencia Al Poder (talkcontribs)

You won't be able to edit translation until the block expires. That's the purpose of the block.

DDPAT 2.0 (talkcontribs)

I apologize for the aggression, but then how do you order me to edit the translations of my test page? Ask someone to edit them for me?

Ciencia Al Poder (talkcontribs)

I can remove your test page from the translation system, so you can edit them as normal wiki pages if you like.

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DDPAT 2.0 (talkcontribs)

@Ciencia Al Poder I apologize. And if I can talk to the user who complained about me, can I be unlocked? Because I'm not going to follow this wiki again, except to edit my test page?

DDPAT 2.0 (talkcontribs)

Why is there no answer?

Ciencia Al Poder (talkcontribs)

I replied already. I think it would be clear already, but if not, I'll summarize:

  • If you're not going to follow this wiki again, you get no benefit from being unblocked from translating.
  • If you only want to edit your test subpage, I've already provided an alternative solution in the message linked above. This already implied I won't unblock you.
Cronolio (talkcontribs)

the test page was about politic - deleted by me. i am able to proofread machine translations in russian language (if i have time) if this user will learn something from this

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Moving Wikimania 2021 to a Virtual Event

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MediaWiki message delivery (talkcontribs)
Wikimania's logo.

Hello. Apologies if you are not reading this message in your native language. Please help translate to your language. Thank you!

Wikimania will be a virtual event this year, and hosted by a wide group of community members. Whenever the next in-person large gathering is possible again, the ESEAP Core Organizing Team will be in charge of it. Stay tuned for more information about how you can get involved in the planning process and other aspects of the event. Please read the longer version of this announcement on wikimedia-l.

ESEAP Core Organizing Team, Wikimania Steering Committee, Wikimedia Foundation Events Team, 15:15, 27 January 2021 (UTC)

MarcoAurelio (talkcontribs)

Hello,

A policy regarding the removal of advanced permissions (such as: administrator, bureaucrat, interface-administrator, etc.) was adopted by global community consensus in 2013. This community, while initially excluded from the activity review, decided in August 2020 to opt-in. Accordingly, the stewards are reviewing the activity of the accounts with advanced permissions based on the admin activity review policy.

To the best of our knowledge, we have determined that the following users meet the inactivity criteria (no edits and no logged actions for more than 2 years):

These users will receive a notification soon in their talk pages, asking them to start a community discussion if they want to retain some or all of their permissions. If the users do not respond, then their advanced permissions will be removed by the stewards without further notice.

We've excluded the following accounts as we believe that those accounts were granted permissions as part of their work and/or services as employees/contrators of the Wikimedia Foundation.

  • Amusso (WMF)
  • PEarley (WMF)
  • Heatherawalls

If you belive those should be included in the review as well, or we missed someone, please inform us.

Please let us know at the stewards' noticeboard on Meta-Wiki if you have any questions or concerns.

Best regards.

VasilievVV (talkcontribs)

The original proposal says this is motivated by security reasons; I have 2FA enabled and do get my talk page notifications, so I think it should be fine to not remove mine?

Skizzerz (talkcontribs)

As far as I’m aware, simply editing here was enough to let you keep everything. The AAR process doesn’t make exemptions for 2FA but now that you’ve edited you’re no longer “inactive.”

MarcoAurelio (talkcontribs)

As long as the user replies to the notice and clearly states that they want to keep their advanced permissions (as VasilievVV did above), and the community is not opposed to it, that is enough for the stewards and it prevents the automatic removal of permissions. The post above also means that VasilievVV won't be notified again unless he fails to make an edit or log action in the next two years.

Talk to the Community Tech: The future of the Community Wishlist Survey

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MediaWiki message delivery (talkcontribs)

Hello!

We, the team working on the Community Wishlist Survey, would like to invite you to an online meeting with us. It will take place on 30 November (Tuesday), 17:00 UTC on Zoom, and will last an hour. Click here to join.

Agenda

  • Changes to the Community Wishlist Survey 2022. Help us decide.
  • Become a Community Wishlist Survey Ambassador. Help us spread the word about the CWS in your community.
  • Questions and answers

Format

The meeting will not be recorded or streamed. Notes without attribution will be taken and published on Meta-Wiki. The presentation (all points in the agenda except for the questions and answers) will be given in English.

We can answer questions asked in English, French, Polish, Spanish, German, and Italian. If you would like to ask questions in advance, add them on the Community Wishlist Survey talk page or send to sgrabarczuk@wikimedia.org.

Natalia Rodriguez (the Community Tech manager) will be hosting this meeting.

Invitation link

We hope to see you! SGrabarczuk (WMF) (talk) 20:03, 26 November 2021 (UTC)

MediaWiki message delivery (talkcontribs)

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Hello!

We, the team working on the Community Wishlist Survey, would like to invite you to an online meeting with us. It will begin on 27 October (Wednesday) at 14:30 UTC on Zoom, and will last an hour. Click here to join.

Agenda

  • Become a Community Wishlist Survey Ambassador. Help us spread the word about the CWS in your community.
  • Update on the disambiguation and the real-time preview wishes
  • Questions and answers

Format

The meeting will not be recorded or streamed. Notes without attribution will be taken and published on Meta-Wiki. The presentation (all points in the agenda except for the questions and answers) will be given in English.

We can answer questions asked in English, French, Polish, Spanish, German, and Italian. If you would like to ask questions in advance, add them on the Community Wishlist Survey talk page or send to sgrabarczuk@wikimedia.org.

Natalia Rodriguez (the Community Tech manager) will be hosting this meeting.

Invitation link

We hope to see you! SGrabarczuk (WMF) (talk) 23:00, 22 October 2021 (UTC)

The discussion vote about the licenses for Abstract content and Function Implementations

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Dušan Kreheľ (talkcontribs)
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Baris6161TURK (talkcontribs)

Can one of the administrator/bureaucrat of this wiki change <source> to <syntaxhighlight> tag? Thanks.

Clump (talkcontribs)

Why? I'm aware of the updated syntax, but it's a user's .js page, and the <source> source tag is just a comment as well.

Ciencia Al Poder (talkcontribs)

The page is in the Category:Pages using deprecated source tags because it has on it:

// <source lang="javascript">

(a common practice, btw, because of task T61616)

On this particular case, vanished users should probably get those subpages deleted, to clean those and future deprecation errors or security vulnerabilities in scripts that are scanned from time to time.

Clump (talkcontribs)

Ok, I see; thanks. Page deleted.